from William Russel < veegodad@yahoo.com >
to roy@hideouttheatre.com
bcc (me)
date Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 3:19 AM
subject food needed
Hello this is william i will like to order for grilled chicken salad for 150 people and it will be picked up between 4pm on 15of April for my b-day party it will be pickup by private carrier and so can i have the total cost and i will give you my credit card to charge for the payment and it will be picked up by 4pm so can i have the grand total cost so that we can proceed
Thanks
Williasm
My reply, jumping right to the nuts:
from (me)
to William Russel < veegodad@yahoo.com >
date Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM
subject Re: food needed
Great!
The cost will be $493 dollars. Send me the card number, exp date, and name on the card.
The last scammer had an IP address that resolved to Guatemala. Turns out this one does, too. His reply:
from William Russel < veegodad@yahoo.com >
to (me)
date Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM
subject Re: food needed
Received: from [41.155.98.163] by web44711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:32:40 PDT
Thanks you for your email and am ok whit the total cost of $493.
for the payment and the shipper info and i will be looking forward to hear back from ASPA
and i will like you to include extra $950 plus the total price of the order so that you can have all that charged on my credit card now and you will have the $950 sent to the private shipper to be able to come for the pick up with their cool truck so can you add it all and let me have the total price inclusive of the tax fee all together so that I can get you my credit card for you to have the total cost charged on it and also I would like to let you know that you will have to send the $950 in cash to the shipper agent via Western Union Money Transfer after you might have charged my credit card through and you add all the tax fee that you will need to add inclusive of the the food money.. I will also like to know maybe you accept master credit card as payment, and try and email me your phone cell # so that i can text you my card info for the full payment now so can i have the grand total so that we can proceed
Thank
William
Yes, that was all pretty much one sentence. Much poorer grammar than the first scam. I made up some numbers and replied back:
from (me)
to William Russel < veegodad@yahoo.com >
date Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:39 PM
subject Re: food needed
The total will be $1376 for everything. I do not have a cell phone. Please email me the credit card info and I will reply promptly.
I finally got a response back. Here is his reply.
from William Russel < veegodad@yahoo.com >
to (me)
date Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:58 PM
subject WHERE MY CARD INFO AND THE SHIPPER INFO WHERE TO FUND TO
Received: from [41.155.9.192] by web44709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:58:27 PDT
William Russel wrote:
Below is the credit card information and also the carrier's address to send the funds to via western union money transfer and also i was informed that the funds will be sent to the book keeper of the shipping company and she is currently in CA and you will have the funds sent down to her and below is the credit card information below....
Name on Card: Williams Russel
Card Type: Mastercard
Card Exp Date:xx/xx
CVV : xxx
Card # xxxxxxxxxxx
And Below is the carrier's info to send the funds....
Shipper name helen Vu ...172 East Dominguez Street, Carson, CA 90746
So asap you are done the transactions, you are to get back to me with info below so that i can forward it to the shipper :
-
Sender Name:
Sender Address:
Money Transfer Control Number(MTCN):
Amount Sent after charges
I will be waiting for the reply
Regards,
I immediately filed a complaint with the FTC and the Internet Crime Complaint Center. I also called my merchant provider and reported it as a Code 10 Authorization. They put me on hold and called Kathryn at Citibank, the issuer of the card number provided to me. She was very nice, but informed me that the name did not match the account, nor did the expiration date. She did tell me they would put a note on the account and inform the cardholder of the issue, which is excellent. Poor guy/gal needs to know.
I'm not sure what is up with the address they provided. They may be involved in the scam; I'm not sure. I reported it to the Los Angeles Regional Crime Stoppers and the Los Angeles County Carson Sheriff's Station none-the-less.
My reply to this scammer was pretty much the same as my reply to the previous scammer, also from Guatemala:
Thanks. Ive reported this to MasterCard so they can close that account for fraud. The FBI and other federal government agencies of the United States and the POLITUR and police in Guatemala are on their way now to your location. You may want to hang tight as running away from the computer will only cause them to release their dogs. Actually, they may already be there, just watching you from the corner, waiting for you to make a run for it. They will be watching you.